小猪Z10次
发表于 2015-12-18 15:40:27
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 15:27 static/image/common/back.gif
我觉得你的数据也有很多是胡说八道。
数据可能有误差,但是我们反驳的只是那些明显错误,比如他说的D车大部分是走沪昆铁路,比如沪杭不存在瓶颈问题什么的,就事论事而已,不存在什么立场,指出反对楼主的人的错误不代表我们就是支持楼主的观点,你太偏激了。。。
小猪Z10次
发表于 2015-12-18 15:44:21
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 15:27 static/image/common/back.gif
我觉得你的数据也有很多是胡说八道。
那你说说我说的数据哪里不对,洗耳恭听,而且我只是说了沪杭间G车94对,D车25对,别的没说什么数据吧,哪里来的“很多”是胡说八道。。。
wusiping99
发表于 2015-12-18 15:45:12
对于按您的建议修铁路的提议,您就是一个笑话{:2_35:}
小猪Z10次
发表于 2015-12-18 15:53:08
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 15:27 static/image/common/back.gif
我觉得你的数据也有很多是胡说八道。
你现在就可以上12306查上海虹桥-杭州东未来几天的G车,是不是平常94对,20号星期天97对,这东西一查就清楚的耍不了赖有什么好胡说八道的呢
Leea1228
发表于 2015-12-18 15:54:00
wusiping99 发表于 2015-12-18 15:45 static/image/common/back.gif
对于按您的建议修铁路的提议,您就是一个笑话
他提议的不止一条呢,呵呵呵!
江州客
发表于 2015-12-18 15:58:12
水晶宫Z吴兴 发表于 2015-12-18 14:43
这个论坛里的一些人的观念,只要是自己家乡的铁路,哪怕是“走鸟不拉屎鸡不生蛋,客流少得可怜”也有一万个 ...
差不多,有的小县城可能一天的客流量没有大城市一个地铁站多,也注册一个ID天天在网上叫高铁,350。甚至把别人规划的普速铁路也YY成自己的350客专。
江州客
发表于 2015-12-18 16:07:18
上海到宁波铁路肯定会上马的,而且会延伸到舟山群岛,开通上海南到舟山的动车组。
Leea1228
发表于 2015-12-18 16:27:03
是啊,是啊,小县城的我天天给学生讲九江坝,讲九江桥的受力分析,开森开森。
飞扬的青春
发表于 2015-12-18 16:40:36
变成吵架贴了
xuthusfang
发表于 2015-12-18 16:45:19
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 15:23 static/image/common/back.gif
我查了最新的盛明时刻,查了杭州,杭州东,宁波站的到发时刻,以及上海所有始发和经停去往杭州以及杭州东 ...
你的盛名时刻表不准确吧,12306是最准的。
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水晶宫Z吴兴 发表于 2015-12-18 14:43 static/image/common/back.gif
这个论坛里的一些人的观念,只要是自己家乡的铁路,哪怕是“走鸟不拉屎鸡不生蛋,客流少得可怜”也有一万个 ...
确实是,上海到宁波间目前的绕行高铁确实比较鸡肋,从2013年7月高铁通车后到目前对公路客运的打击可以说几乎没有,因为就是绕行的高铁票价太贵,很多人都是坐大巴往来上海与宁波(及舟山)间的,上海宁波间的高铁票价(144元)比大巴票价(103元)高了40%,时间几乎没有节省,同样要到上海的人民广场的话,因为大巴到的上海汽车南站比虹桥高铁站离市中心更近,所以虽然高铁比大巴快20分钟左右,但从南站坐地铁到市中心更快,所以两者的时间是差不多的,且南站的公交配套更好,所以沪杭甬高铁开通后,沪甬一线的公路客运仍然火爆,都没有减班,目前上海—宁波一天51班,上海—慈溪一天26班,上海—余姚一天20班,上海—象山一天11班,上海—宁海一天8班,上海—奉化一天4班,上海—北仑一天4班,上海—舟山一天30班,这些大巴就有一天150班以上,且这些班线的实载率起码有六成以上,就是40座的大巴平均一班坐25人以上,算下来客流单向就是有4000人以上,双向一天有8000人以上。这仅仅是甬舟地区到上海的客流,还有到苏州、无锡、南通及苏北沿海地区都还有大量的大巴客流,还有很多人因为高铁票价贵绕路选择自驾的,一旦沪甬铁路建成这些人中大多数肯定会选择通过沪甬铁路走,所以铁路要等沪甬铁路建成才能改变这种局面了,所以沪甬铁路的建设非常有必要。
Leea1228
发表于 2015-12-18 19:11:37
扯淡,如果说上海到宁波绕行,那么大连到烟台了???吹牛逼不打草稿的那么多,吹啊,吹你的学位,CSCSE的认证书了???
呃呃呃,老表多么高贵的血统啊,呃呃呃,商务座啊。猫!不想扯脏字。
overmars808
发表于 2015-12-18 20:53:22
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 19:11 static/image/common/back.gif
扯淡,如果说上海到宁波绕行,那么大连到烟台了???吹牛逼不打草稿的那么多,吹啊,吹你的学位,CSCSE的认 ...
上海到宁波和大连到烟台的跨海通道区别还是差很多的,上海到宁波海上段最多40公里,如果从嘉兴走,海上段不到30公里,且杭州湾跨海公路大桥已建成,技术上不成问题。而大连到烟台的海上段要150公里以上了,国内还没有这方面的先例。而从城市能级和交流度来说,上海宁波要比大连烟台高很多。
Leea1228
发表于 2015-12-18 21:11:00
overmars808 发表于 2015-12-18 20:53 static/image/common/back.gif
上海到宁波和大连到烟台的跨海通道区别还是差很多的,上海到宁波海上段最多40公里,如果从嘉兴走,海上段 ...
大连的北边是沈阳,长春,哈尔滨,烟台的南边是青岛,合肥,南昌,广州,深圳和香港。
剩下的话还要我说嘛???
江州客
发表于 2015-12-18 22:00:37
overmars808 发表于 2015-12-18 20:53
上海到宁波和大连到烟台的跨海通道区别还是差很多的,上海到宁波海上段最多40公里,如果从嘉兴走,海上段 ...
你和那种人永远都无法讲道理,在他们眼里他们那个地方就是中国首都,只要和他们有关的铁路就想尽各种理由应该建,没有关系的就没有必要建,周边规划不经过他们的铁路就要去各地时政论坛发改委发帖破坏掉。可惜这种人偏偏往往出自一些鸟不拉屎的地方。
overmars808
发表于 2015-12-18 22:01:14
Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 21:11 static/image/common/back.gif
大连的北边是沈阳,长春,哈尔滨,烟台的南边是青岛,合肥,南昌,广州,深圳和香港。
剩下的话还要我说 ...
除了方便辽东半岛到胶东半岛以及长三角,和胶东半岛到东北的交通,你提南昌、广州、深圳、香港干什么?沈阳以北到南昌广州深圳又用不着走这条通道,照样走山海关
Leea1228
发表于 2015-12-18 22:04:30
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江州客 发表于 2015-12-18 22:00 static/image/common/back.gif
你和那种人永远都无法讲道理,在他们眼里他们那个地方就是中国首都,只要和他们有关的铁路就想尽各种理由 ...
呃呃呃,九江是个鸟拉屎的地方,等得起查水表的给你敲门。我已经保留了你所有的不当言论证据,网络不是法外之地。等我忙完年底的事情,立马向大江网服务器托管所在地南昌市中院提请诉讼,大江同样是被告,你等着吃官司。
不让你这样的人尝尝大牢的滋味,你永远管不住自己的嘴巴。
尽喜欢吹牛逼不打草稿,985大学本科,欧洲大学的博士学位证书,我问你的CSCSE认证书编码了???有胆子来亮一亮啊。
采石小虾
发表于 2015-12-18 22:28:10
呵呵,一个伪命题居然吵的不亦乐乎,似乎有些人是代表了某些利益集团。
江州客
发表于 2015-12-19 03:17:25
本帖最后由 江州客 于 2015-12-19 03:20 编辑
某些人的行为就是劣币驱逐良币,反正自己什么都不懂,就是瞎喷,也占一楼,干扰正常的讨论,让本来想谈经济性和技术性的人也只能回复初级的问题,形成逆向选择。
江州客
发表于 2015-12-19 04:07:59
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Leea1228 发表于 2015-12-18 22:04 http://bbs.hasea.com/static/image/common/back.gif
呃呃呃,九江是个鸟拉屎的地方,等得起查水表的给你敲门。我已经保留了你所有的不当言论证据,网络不是法外 ...
我曾经沿着沪渝高速从南京一直开车到大渡口,基本上南京到铜陵一带城镇密集,铜陵到池州一带发展尚可,到了升金湖一带就已经很落后了。
你省的发展战略是融入长三角,芜铜池等城市到你市的距离都比你市到九江近得多,但是他们比你市更接近长三角的中心城市。你市目前的困境,是因为你们在以长三角为核心的城市群的末梢。但是你省的官员不可能这样跟你们说,他们说你们是因为外省交通建设,所以受到制约等等落后,你们也就信了,其实那个城市和你们根本没有多大关系。
你不是天天叫合安九吗?合安九的环评里写的很清楚,按照国家国土开发规划,安庆市西南那几个县都是农业保护区,安徽省根本没有把用地开发指标放在你们身上,你们找外省瞎折腾,有意思吗?